Thursday, June 4, 2009

Hardin, Ibaka not in Thunder's Plans?

Here is a question I posed yesterday on an NBA chat with Hoopsworld's Steve Kyler:

Keith in Oklahoma City:
Please tell me the Thunder will not take Thabeet. He seems like too much of a project at 3 especially given their checkered past of drafting Center projects. Plus, they have Hardin and Ibaka to evaluate right?
Here was Steve's Response:

Steve Kyler:
Hardin was in for their vets mini camp and underwhelmed... he's likely off the board for them... Ibaka, whats a deffered pick... he may never play in the NBA, so scratch him off too... none of those guys were high level picks, so saying you struck out in the 2nd round is not the same as saying you missed on a top 5 pick.

I doubt that OKC takes Thabeet, but here is the case for Hasheem... at 7' 2.5" he'd be among the tallest players in the league... he can rebound and block shots, and does not need a single offensive possession to be effective... on a team loaded with scorers, he'd be a welcome relief.

The other thing to consider... almsot no one in this class plays major minutes as a rookie... most will split time with someone else.. so you have time to develop Hasheem... if you think you can do that, then you draft him.

I am not sold anyone believes they can make Hasheem into Mutombo.


Tuesday, June 2, 2009

Are the Thunder and Pistons up to the Devil's Bidny?

Courtesy of Jonathon Givony of Draft Express:
"With the Detroit Pistons looking to get as far under the salary cap as they can this summer, and the Oklahoma City Thunder being one of the few teams who are able to help them shed salary, the two teams have emerged as natural trade partners, multiple NBA sources told DraftExpress this past weekend.

With very few teams projected to have cap space this summer (Oklahoma City, Memphis, Portland, Sacramento and Atlanta being the main ones), it appears that Detroit could be in great position to take advantage of the strength of this free agent class and nab a couple of pieces that would put them right back in the mix to compete for the Eastern conference finals. Detroit is currently slated to be around 20 million dollars underneath the cap, but could shed another five million or so by unloading the contracts of Amir Johnson and their first round pick (#15).

Enter the Oklahoma City Thunder. They are reportedly high on B.J. Mullens (as is Milwaukee), and likely would be able to nab him with the 15th pick. Considering how far under the cap they’ll be this summer, they would have no problem taking on Amir Johnson’s expiring 3.66 million dollar contract. They should be able to find a suitor for their late first round pick if they choose to do so, as teams like San Antonio, Houston, Toronto and Orlando are all in the market for a draft choice in that range.

With the money Detroit frees up, they could go after their top two free agent targets, rumored to be Paul Millsap and Ben Gordon."
According to basketball-reference.com, Johnson averages 9.9 rebounds, 9.9 points and 3.1 blocks per 36 minutes of court time over his career. It appears he has a cult following, as evidenced here.

Johnson is an athletic freak who has spent the first three years of his career filling his body out and learning the game.

So leave it to Sam Presti to come out smelling like roses if this thing pans out. You swap this year's 25 pick and some cash for this year's 15 pick, a guy who was barely out of that 25 pick range three years ago, is only 21, appears to be poised to blossom into a double-double type player with more playing time and has a small expiring contract.

Pick 15 gives the Thunder a shot at Terrence Williams, B.J. Mullens (who the Thunder are rumoured to be intrigued by) or Gerald Henderson. Choices at pick 25 could include Gani Lawal, Chase Budinger or Marcus Thornton. Maybe not a massive upgrade but an upgrade.

If you get Johnson then you can take a chance on a project Center like Mullens and take the risk out of selecting Hasheem Thabeet with the 3rd pick. Common sense and my detective skills tells me that if this rumour is true then the Thunder are much more interested in James Harden, Stephen Curry or possibly Ricky Rubio.